tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post5077480754435068457..comments2024-02-25T21:12:14.425-06:00Comments on The Millennial Freemason: Parlez-vous français, mon frère?Millennial Freemasonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10365269439441609340noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-4653309317728105382013-12-25T19:34:34.908-06:002013-12-25T19:34:34.908-06:00Funny enough, we work here (in the ivory coast) in...Funny enough, we work here (in the ivory coast) in french. i would love to work in english. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-90089594822542692552008-12-29T23:37:00.000-06:002008-12-29T23:37:00.000-06:00Fred,I think that your comment is the key to my ar...Fred,<BR/>I think that your comment is the key to my article. I know that it is possible to have a lodge using another language, rather, it is the difficulty of a member of another culture knowing how to join at all. We have not done the proper outreach to these communities that we could be doing.<BR/><BR/>NickMillennial Freemasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10365269439441609340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-62243457888623045752008-12-28T09:47:00.000-06:002008-12-28T09:47:00.000-06:00It's not only the use of another language which is...It's not only the use of another language which is important here but also reaching out to men in other cultures who speak other languages. It's high time Freemasonry in the USA made a serious outreach effort to Hispanic men to name only one segment. For too long American Freemasonry has been a WASP organization. We just need to be more welcoming to other cultures. Freemasonry is Universal.Frederic L. Millikenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00375574953455842623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-66176942636168801272008-12-21T02:28:00.000-06:002008-12-21T02:28:00.000-06:00Fairly simply really. If all the brothers are in ...Fairly simply really. If all the brothers are in the same lodge, they can petition the grand lodge for dispensation to work in their own language, or by default, if no other brothers object, then they could work in the tongue that they are most proficient with.Greg Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17688459525360750872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-67130295364863804742008-12-20T19:18:00.000-06:002008-12-20T19:18:00.000-06:00Thanks Greg. I looked it up and the Lodge is Logia...Thanks Greg. I looked it up and the Lodge is Logia Panamericana #513. So Chris, there is a Spanish speaking Lodge in California.<BR/><BR/>If we can do ritual work in English, French, Italian and German in this country in recognized Grand Lodges, there should be no reason why other languages couldn't be used. There are many new men from many different countries that could form Lodges; the Millennial Freemasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10365269439441609340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-31585881505638185242008-12-20T14:50:00.000-06:002008-12-20T14:50:00.000-06:00The French degrees here in L.A. are a bit of a big...The French degrees here in L.A. are a bit of a big deal, and when ever there is one being held, its widely announced lodge to lodge. I have yet to see one sadly, as my schedule has always conflicted.<BR/><BR/>There is also a Spanish lodge here in Los Angeles in Granada Hills, which should be mentioned in that issue of CA Freemason, but it is a recent charter to operate in espanol.Greg Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17688459525360750872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-52857961243636820532008-12-20T14:47:00.000-06:002008-12-20T14:47:00.000-06:00Hm, I would love to go to a UGLE lodge that spoke ...Hm, I would love to go to a UGLE lodge that spoke French, say, to help to improve my very faulty command of it. Being familiar with the ritual in English would be an advantage when listening to it in another language.<BR/><BR/>I am surprised that there are no Spanish-speaking lodges in California--one would think that would be a natural, but "oh well" (in American English, which equals "heigh ho!Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534842755063770798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-40083433993231707282008-12-20T10:29:00.000-06:002008-12-20T10:29:00.000-06:00Chris,It appears that there aren't any Spanish spe...Chris,<BR/>It appears that there aren't any Spanish speaking Lodges in California but they do exist in New York and Florida. Here is a rather outdated Short Talk paper about different languages being used. <A>http://www.themasonictrowel.com/masonic_talk/stb/stbs/63-08.htm</A><BR/>I did a little research online and it seems that some of the Lodges do work in the language while others have ended Millennial Freemasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10365269439441609340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-20940677882962551302008-12-20T03:33:00.000-06:002008-12-20T03:33:00.000-06:00Are there Spanish-speaking lodges in California?I ...Are there Spanish-speaking lodges in California?<BR/><BR/>I know that there are Welsh-speaking lodges in London--I met a brother from one on the bus one evening after leaving my own Lodge's Festive Board. He addressed me as Brother after noting that I was not only dressed in a dark suit but had my apron-case.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06534842755063770798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-76626067628001571722008-12-19T22:26:00.000-06:002008-12-19T22:26:00.000-06:00Jeff,I agree completely with you. I think it is ve...Jeff,<BR/>I agree completely with you. I think it is very possible to get the same inward meaning from a translation. I would love to hear the ritual in another language yet still understand the meaning that is being presented in the ritual. <BR/><BR/>Dean,<BR/>Je te remercie pour ton commentaire. Je voudrais visiter une loge qui travaille dans français. Ce serait très bon.<BR/><BR/>Justa,<BR/>Millennial Freemasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10365269439441609340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-878680188152518442008-12-19T21:41:00.000-06:002008-12-19T21:41:00.000-06:00I just added better multi-lingual support to KingS...I just added better multi-lingual support to KingSolomonsLodge.org today, so this post went right along with what I've been thinking about all day.<BR/><BR/>I agree that language should not be a barrier to the Fraternity, so long as there are enough speakers of the language involved in a particular location to sustain the work there. I would also say there should be some intermediate work, such Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787092364477664570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-24663336599279016442008-12-19T11:31:00.000-06:002008-12-19T11:31:00.000-06:00e have a lodge in my jurisdiction that opens and c...e have a lodge in my jurisdiction that opens and closes in French and has a sister lodge in Paris. Here is a link to more info.<BR/><BR/>http://www.grandlodgens.org/lodge/lodgesdisp4.php?Lodge_Number=138<BR/><BR/>I have not been to the lodge but keep meaning to go.Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12514097594472670710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2521156856913693008.post-51965675301538619372008-12-19T00:00:00.000-06:002008-12-19T00:00:00.000-06:00The GL of California also had Hermann Lodge which ...The GL of California also had Hermann Lodge which worked in German. Someone can correct me, but I believe Speranza Lodge in San Francisco originally worked in Italian.<BR/><BR/>La Parfait Union works a First Degree in an old French ritual annually and it's apparently quite something to see, though I've missed it the times I've been down there.<BR/><BR/>JustaStill Justa Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18251151452545005294noreply@blogger.com